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Post by ironguts on Apr 24, 2008 18:22:14 GMT 10
It was a typo, "French moron" it should have read.
There is no doubt that a conflict of interest exists, the only way around it is to not have any festival gigs at Bennetts Lane, there are plenty of other venues for concerts. I mean Grabba can't play at the Adelaide Festival, a loss to them , but that is how it is.
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Post by punter on Apr 24, 2008 19:31:43 GMT 10
Ouch...
"The new Makhzen has a new face and takes more subtle forms today: while displaying a façade of modernity and institutional "democracy", power is actually wielded in an archaic fashion. Corruption is part of daily life. Plutocracy and nepotism, “kleptocracy” and cronyism are the rule everywhere… leading to the widening of the social gap between the haves and the have-nots, to alarming rates of unemployment and to public services being held to minimum despite people paying huge amounts of taxes by Moroccan standards. Public welfare is almost non-existent…"
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Post by isaacs on Apr 25, 2008 1:13:49 GMT 10
I mean Grabba can't play at the Adelaide Festival I don't see why not. I hope he does. Opera director Lindy Hume made major artistic contributions to the Perth International Arts Festival when she was artistic director. Melbourne recordist Genevieve Lacey performs in the festivals she curates. NSW cellist Trish O'Brien performs in the regional music festivals of which she is artistic director. Violinist Richard Tognetti performs in the Huntington Festivals financially underwritten by his (then) wife's family. Composer Matthew Hindson programs some of his own works in the Aurora Festival of which he is artistic director. I have performed in two of the four Brisbane Powerhouse jazz festivals I curated. The artistic directors of jazzgroove perform regularly in the jazzgroove program. In all cases the performers could have reasonably expected to have had the potential to get a gig at the events independent of their stewardship. And in all cases Melbourne jazz musicians weren't around to snipe. And shoot themselves in the foot. |
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Post by andrewh on Apr 25, 2008 3:59:34 GMT 10
And in all cases Melbourne jazz musicians weren't around to snipe. And shoot themselves in the foot. Like how? And is it worse than the current system in Melbourne of being shot in the back (/slapped in the face/kicked in the balls)? Not arguing against your points, not at all; just wondering about the little sting in your tail. |
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Post by isaacs on Apr 25, 2008 9:14:05 GMT 10
just wondering about the little sting in your tail. It's there. |
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Post by alimcg on Apr 25, 2008 9:39:02 GMT 10
No, no, no andrew; what mark meant was that Sydney musos never snipe or shoot themselves in the foot... They're too busy making their plans to move to Melbourne.
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Post by gator on Apr 25, 2008 10:13:07 GMT 10
;D
One could also add that our performances as musicians are certainly 'assessed' by the likes of PR and MT - often very subjectively and sometimes to the detriment of the artist - in terms of for instance never getting a gig at Bennetts lane unless its thru the Jazz Co op or perhaps at SIMA or just a total lack of communication. The negativity for many musicians in this paradigm is so accepted now - and you need to be prepared to cop it , despite the fact that an act of creativity on behalf of a great improviser is a positive gesture.
MT and PR are big boys. In my humble opinion, PR's book is not well written, has the potential to be construed as a representation of the entire jazz community and while I of course want to see more money directed toward improvised music,and the longevity of the MIJF and Bennetts lane as potentially valuable resources - I'll reserve the right as these guys do -to affirm the gesture, but seriously question the content. Its important to not confuse a mild cynicism based on some personal experiences with an outright negativity toward the intentions of the PR's or MT's of the world.
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Post by ironguts on Apr 25, 2008 10:28:04 GMT 10
Well said gator, again I love you.
Mark, it's my understanding that Paul isn't supposed to be seen as presenting himself at the festival through conflict of interest. Any involvement the AAO have for eg would need to be put to the board for approval and even then would not be under his direction, this was the case in Brisbane with Crossing Roper Bar where Julien was MD. This is not something I just pulled out of the air, it's simple conflict of interest stuff. Maybe Paul can illuminate for you more.
I'm not against or even negative about MT being AD of MIJF, but I do agree there is a conflict of interest because Bennetts will benefit even though exposure let alone financially. MT way well do a good job and he is well connected to people/businesses with money.
As far as sniping around and shooting ourselves in the foot it's better than a mouth full of cum.
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Post by alimcg on Apr 25, 2008 10:30:52 GMT 10
...and you'd know, too.
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Post by punter on Apr 25, 2008 11:02:39 GMT 10
And in all cases Melbourne jazz musicians weren't around to snipe. And shoot themselves in the foot. Yeah right Mark Melbourne musicians are shooting themselves in the foot by criticising Michael Tortoni's appointment as artistic director of the Melbourne Jazz Festival??? Is that your argument?? WTF? |
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Post by andrewh on Apr 25, 2008 21:26:15 GMT 10
just wondering about the little sting in your tail. It's there. Sorry to hear that. Try www.pilesadvice.com. |
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Post by ironguts on Apr 25, 2008 21:32:45 GMT 10
ha, well researched person you are andrewh!
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Post by punter on Apr 26, 2008 23:46:11 GMT 10
Who are you andrewh? I'm a fan |
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Post by vickibonet on Apr 27, 2008 1:08:23 GMT 10
I mean Grabba can't play at the Adelaide Festival I don't see why not. I hope he does. Opera director Lindy Hume made major artistic contributions to the Perth International Arts Festival when she was artistic director. Melbourne recordist Genevieve Lacey performs in the festivals she curates. NSW cellist Trish O'Brien performs in the regional music festivals of which she is artistic director. Violinist Richard Tognetti performs in the Huntington Festivals financially underwritten by his (then) wife's family. Composer Matthew Hindson programs some of his own works in the Aurora Festival of which he is artistic director. I have performed in two of the four Brisbane Powerhouse jazz festivals I curated. The artistic directors of jazzgroove perform regularly in the jazzgroove program. In all cases the performers could have reasonably expected to have had the potential to get a gig at the events independent of their stewardship. And in all cases Melbourne jazz musicians weren't around to snipe. And shoot themselves in the foot. Does this mean AJ has been a wimp by not performing at Wang all these years? |
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Post by bogus on Apr 28, 2008 0:38:13 GMT 10
apparently the festival is going to take a year off next year and start again in jan '10, anyone else heard this rumour?
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