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Post by Joe Chindamo on Nov 9, 2005 14:21:34 GMT 10
D earest Mark, what on earth do you mean 'we were both around 30 when Wangaratta started"? You're 4 years older than I, a long time in festival years, not to mention the fact that when you were 8, I was half your age  Affectionately, Joe |
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Post by Kenny on Nov 9, 2005 14:22:51 GMT 10
Fight, fight, fight! ;D
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Post by isaacs on Nov 9, 2005 14:37:20 GMT 10
D earest Mark, what on earth do you mean 'we were both around 30 when Wangaratta started"? You're 4 years older than I, a long time in festival years, not to mention the fact that when you were 8, I was half your age Affectionately, Joe I'm 3 years older, give or take a few months. You, '61, me '58. Love Mark |
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Post by not passive aggressive on Nov 9, 2005 14:52:05 GMT 10
AJ QUOTE: " I think the worst, most useless kind of review is the negative one, where the reviewer boosts their ego by making 'witty' putdowns. (eg, dissing a singer as sounding like a 'jazz Barbie' may well be taken as personally offensive by the singer, but tells the reader nothing about why the reviewer disliked them...tone ? phrasing ? what ?........sorry Vicki, I know it wasn't a review per se, but it was a handy example)"
shit, ouch.... who says men aren't bitchy? Whoah...
to paraphrase Jacko "A handy example of the worst most negative ego boosting review?" Adrian you can not be serious? She didn't even name the friggin vocalist for Chrissakes & thats not anything like a review of anyone in our book as most reviewers name the artists.
(Aplogising after the insult doesn;t get you off either Jackson) if anyone has been negative and ego driven here we think it might actually be you. Sorry Adrian but your example was just how can we put this? Oh yeah... handy.
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Post by Not Kenny on Nov 9, 2005 15:02:11 GMT 10
 fight fight fight !!! :-)
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Post by bored on Nov 9, 2005 15:26:08 GMT 10
oh give it a rest please
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Post by shb on Nov 9, 2005 16:14:39 GMT 10
AJ made an important point and used a relevant example.
a good review is an artform, unconstuctive reductions is childsplay
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Post by mama on Nov 9, 2005 16:33:04 GMT 10
yes but is a kindergarten isn't it?
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Post by Reader on Nov 9, 2005 17:40:39 GMT 10
(Aplogising after the insult doesn;t get you off either Jackson Sounds like S) if anyone has been negative and ego driven here we think it might actually be you. Sorry Adrian but your example was just how can we put this? Oh yeah... handy.
Mate you are so far off the beam why don't you stay on topic and deal with the point he was making. Sounds like you might be getting a few sour grapes off your chest: didn't you get the gig?
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Post by aj on Nov 9, 2005 18:02:42 GMT 10
ok, a few responses :
* Not AJ : What makes you say I don't like Vicki much ? Maybe you don't know what you're talking about. I took that as a handy example, rather than wading through files or websites to find an example from an actual review. If Vicki has a problem with that, I'm sure she'll tell me next time she sees me.
* Casper, I may have had some sober conversations with you.......I don't know, given you're using a pseudonym ! (maybe you're a ghost writer ?). No, I wasn't suggesting that musicians are illiterate ; my point (obviously not made clearly) was that it's hard enough to master what's involved in playing music at a high level, and trying to make a living from same, without also working on the writer's craft to the level where you can write clearly and concisely, at a publish-able standard. Yes, I know several musicians who are articulate, even eloquent.
* not passive aggressive : (yawn)
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Post by Reader on Nov 9, 2005 18:15:40 GMT 10
AJ QUOTE: " (Aplogising after the insult doesn;t get you off either Jackson) if anyone has been negative and ego driven here we think it might actually be you. Sorry Adrian but your example was just how can we put this? Oh yeah... handy. Fucked up my quote in last post, I was responding to quote as above. |
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Post by Reader on Nov 9, 2005 18:54:11 GMT 10
It seems to me that I could belatedly be in for the same sort of flack that Tim got. I dare to give Ben Robertson a pointer (a former member of my trio) and also characterise a somewhat negative aspect I perceive in David Jones' musical approach (also a former member of my trio). Difference here is that you also find plenty of positives. In fact you really celebrate what is good about this album. You also give the reader a clear context for your criticisms. This is a well written, balanced review that contributes on many levels. The one John Clare wrote about Wang is also really good; not entirely positive but offering balanced and contextualised criticisms. It's also a nice little read. |
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Post by Truth on Nov 9, 2005 23:17:47 GMT 10
"Difference here is that you also find plenty of positives. In fact you really celebrate what is good about this album. You also give the reader a clear context for your criticisms. "
This is the problem with Tim's review, there is not a balance between positives and negatives - It's all negatives directed at Sam - That's one of the main reasons there has been so much discussion on this forum
Joe - if someone reviewed your CD and didn't mention one positive aspect about your playing just technical nitpicking - how would you feel. Remember this is your lively hood for every one to read. It would not be a happy Joe... especially if someone like Paul Grabowski wrote the review.
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Post by isaacs on Nov 10, 2005 4:55:08 GMT 10
"This is the problem with Tim's review, there is not a balance between positives and negatives - It's all negatives directed at Sam Is the above statement true? Certainly one could be forgiven for forming the impression from this thread that Tim's review was just "all negatives directed at Sam". Perhaps it's time to read the review again? |
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Post by Truthless on Nov 10, 2005 6:54:41 GMT 10
"This is the problem with Tim's review, there is not a balance between positives and negatives - It's all negatives directed at Sam Is the above statement true? Certainly one could be forgiven for forming the impression from this thread that Tim's review was just "all negatives directed at Sam". Perhaps it's time to read the review again? Well - maybe we're reading a different review because Tim doesn't have a positive comment about Sam's piano playing - the only positive is the ensemble playing with Jamie. I think it reads approx 10 negatives - 1 sort of positive |
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fight fight fight !!! :-)