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Post by TPG on Jan 30, 2006 9:20:32 GMT 10
"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam [is] in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5)
-with care and empathy,
TPG
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Post by jazz police on Jan 30, 2006 9:32:42 GMT 10
Yes!
'Can you furnish yourself with your own good and evil and hang up your own will above yourself as law? Can you be judge of yourself and avenger of your law?' (Nietzsche)
I make my judgments because they are my opinions of what I enjoy hearing in music. Thus i try my utmost to include them in the music I create. I have no problem in being judged on my musical creations. I have had people tell me they don't enjoy my music, or they hate my music, or they think my music is full of 'mistakes.' I feel that anybody has the right to any opinion, but they don't have the right to try and press it onto everybody else.
I do have a problem in being judged purely on the idea that my name appears in white rather that yellow.
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Post by Beatch on Jan 30, 2006 11:03:22 GMT 10
yeah jp but ur still a complete wally
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Post by Peter the Wolf on Jan 30, 2006 12:06:18 GMT 10
Script Scene 1. Somewhere in north melbourne a talented young jazz musician sits alone in his bedroom of a shared house. Too depressed to practice, feeling despair at the world, lonely, frustrated by his lack of bookings for well paid gigs, and recalling his last review by Jessica Nicholas he finally turns in desperation to the net. After playing all the games on ABC kids and looking at some soft porn sites he checks out OJF and begins to post. Juice Please: me me me, the world revolves around me! Everything everyone posts in response to what I say is a hidden insult directed at me. joechindamo is arrogant cos i cant play as good as he can and hes got a bigger vocabulary so that proves hes a arrogant Flicky sucks big time cos she replied to my post and i didnt agree with her. I always make myself clear coz im articulate so how dare she when i have decided shes wrong, me." Our hero pauses for breath followed by a big slug of the now warm beer he brought home from the pub. As he swallows, he’s pondering another post written by Joseph K. (screaming out loud as he types) "i have a right to freak everyone out by threatening suicide on a regular basis, me. GPT is a shithead bore, me me me! Me, i am really a serious musician every one knows me and they really like me... me me me attention to me, attention to me... boo hoo hoo" Breaking away from his pc and staggering into the kitchen he sobs into his cornflakes from last week still on the kitchen table. Lucky all his house mates are passed out on the couch or at their girlfriends house. Relieved after a good cry, he returns to his room. Rolls a cigarette and lies on his bed looking up at the peeling paint on his ceiling. Bored he returns back to cyberspace only to find GPT and Cartwheel have replied to his last post! In the dark of his room, with only the light of his PC shining on his young face he reads: Cartwheel: Give me the rest of your cornflakes dude. GPT: Jesus you are boring Juice Please. Weirdkenny: Grateful Dead goes really well with my new hat and fettucine. Pondering these comments, the young Juice Please’s face begins to turn from a grayish white (from too much smoking) to a deep crimson. His hands start to tremble. Taking a deep last drag on his cigarette, he extinguishes it in his empty beer can. Then extends two fingers (one from each hand) to begin typing. He's one angry motherfucker! Juice Please: I practice 10 hours a day me, I do! Do you? Do you practice as much as me? My dick is bigger than Ironingboards, me i'm nice really i am. why doesnt anyone understand me why oh why oh why. Ironingboard: fuck you Juice Please. Cartwheel lets go heckle Tiger Rex at the 303. Flicky: I simply can’t stand it when musicians don’t wear black tie. Joe Chindamo is a genius. Would someone please book Jessica Williams cos she’s a lesbian pianist and she plays as fast as Joe does. Mark you look very handsome today in that nice clean shirt. I’m doing a fundraiser for Peruvian Orphans please check it out on www.iamworthy.com. Astroboy (grinning): My suit may smell but Shoe Lady wants to jump my bones! Lindablahblahblah: does anyone have Sibelius please, I need to work something out? If you can help Email me at linablahblah@hotmail.com Thanks. Juice Please: Lets recap me me me, me me me I’m reasonable, why don’t you get it why why why? Kamahl: Why are people so unkind? ad infinitum Fade to black. |
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Post by linablahblahblahblahblah on Jan 30, 2006 13:27:40 GMT 10
you've been busy! we made it home safe, you have fun now  |
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Post by Peter the Wolf on Jan 30, 2006 13:58:11 GMT 10
go back to bed bitch.
xxx
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Post by johnk on Jan 30, 2006 18:10:27 GMT 10
[SHAGGAZZ SAID "good point stinky. just because jazz police is seemingly the only person who shares jazz police's ideas doesn't mean the people that disagree with him should 'lose their cool' and indulge in what tinky terms quite eloquently as 'reactionist crap'. Honesty, discussion and debate can only contribute positively to our 'scene'. One other thing. JP appears to blatantly attack people... fine... is that worse than people showing up to people's gigs"
Surely u can not be serious woman? Reactionist crap is wot [glow=red,2,300]makes[/glow] this forum. [glow=red,2,300]Just ask Ironguts[/glow].
Christ almighty, a music forum where everyone is positive & harmonious would be about as interesting as watching some dumbarse performance artist ( funding by the Oz Council) 2 sit on a chair 4 a whole month, on ur own, with no popcorn.
Yin & yang/dark & light/positive & negative.
The sad arsehole posing as jazz police can't even be honest with himself let alone anyone else. He doesn't 'appear' to attack people. JP does attack people. How much evidence do you need for fux sake.
U want my honest opinion
the guy is a real sad guy
while u seem like a decent woman w/solid ethics and a great personality. Do u come from a totally functional family or something? How come u play so good if ur not screwed up?
Can I be cheeky & get ur phone number? R u on MSN or Yahoo messenger?
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Post by cartman on Jan 30, 2006 18:21:53 GMT 10
"Judge not, that ye be not judged."  What the *&%$#?? Stop bitchin asshole. I dont need to take that shit from a gardiner! Screw you guys i'm outta here |
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Post by shaggaz on Jan 30, 2006 18:28:01 GMT 10
I'm flattered John, but I must politely decline as I live with "March" aka Marc H! Forgive me but have I met you?
Okay okay, so I didn't mean that I want the forum to be all nice and happy. More like happy tree friends and friends. well maybe not like that.
I'm all for the craziness. I'm just saying that when there are 'serious' debates ie not about pizza or girls or clothes etc that people cannot attack someone without a sensible argument yada yada yada. I think this has already been stated many times in other threads.
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Post by vickijane on Jan 31, 2006 0:04:22 GMT 10
Hey Shannon, I know it gets a bit silly here sometimes but do you really think there is no artistry in the preparation and production of food and clothing? Even pizzas can be a creative piece of work for some. Issey Miyake, Dior, Gaultier and Lacroix (clothes designers guys) are inspirational artists to me - (although I would never buy their stuff unless I found it in an op shop).
Many chefs are capable of great works of art, sometimes too beautiful to destroy by eating (but there is art in the eating too!)
The best dressed list was a flippant gesture after someone requested a list. To put it in perspective, my father’s family were all in show business. We were brought up being taught that if you go on stage and expect people to pay attention to you - you had better pay them the respect of looking as good as you can. Or don't get on the stage in the first place (unless you are a stage hand) and don’t expect to get another gig if you do.
Times change, of course - but some of us don't always change with the times (including me, I hate to admit). I’ve heard a lot of people who are a bit older than you say they find it off putting to see people looking sloppy on stage when they have paid to see them. I agree with that view, as you no doubt have worked out by now.
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Post by TPG on Jan 31, 2006 1:20:22 GMT 10
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Post by shaggaz on Jan 31, 2006 9:04:54 GMT 10
well put tpg.
WHAT? I wasn't commenting on the validity of cuisine and fashion as art forms, man.
The pizza I was referring to was CARTMAN'S consistent references that are FUNNY and SILLY. It doesn't mean I don't LIKE THEM or that pizzas ARE TO BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.
Ok great. I forgot about the SERIOUS discussion about clothes. SORRY SORRY SORRY.
It's hard to remember that that had some merit, when the thread was interspersed with SILLINESS (including some from yours truly)
DO I LOOK SLOPPY ON STAGE? Cos if I do, I will surely change.
(shaggaz is grumpy this morning)
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Post by mim on Jan 31, 2006 10:51:09 GMT 10
And the miss the point award goes too... dat da da dah....  |
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Post by Vicki who cant log in on Jan 31, 2006 12:06:40 GMT 10
Shannon in answer to your question, I would say no. I've only see you play live about 50 times though. and yes, I can tell you are grumpy today.
Mim, how nice to have you back! We need more women on this forum, even if they have to repeat themselves to make a point (lol) :-)
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Post by Vicki who cant log in on Jan 31, 2006 12:08:58 GMT 10
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What the *&%$#?? Stop bitchin asshole.
