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QMF
Jun 3, 2007 17:49:34 GMT 10
Post by aj on Jun 3, 2007 17:49:34 GMT 10
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QMF
Jun 4, 2007 9:49:41 GMT 10
Post by timothystevens on Jun 4, 2007 9:49:41 GMT 10
This is probably a bonzer festival, and truly I hope it goes off. But please, Creative in residence?
Good grief. Only a business think-tank could come up with that one. (And what a lot of think-tank it is, to be sure.)
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QMF
Jun 4, 2007 16:59:50 GMT 10
Post by aj on Jun 4, 2007 16:59:50 GMT 10
Pretentious ? Moi ?
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 8:36:54 GMT 10
Post by timothystevens on Jun 5, 2007 8:36:54 GMT 10
Sad (though not surprising) to see that there are luminaries in the business community who are so unfamiliar with the word 'creative' as actually to think it's a noun.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 8:56:20 GMT 10
Post by aj on Jun 5, 2007 8:56:20 GMT 10
Most of them think it's hyphenated with 'accounting'.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 11:53:12 GMT 10
Post by isaacs on Jun 5, 2007 11:53:12 GMT 10
Fair enough Tim and aj. I'm sure plenty of business people also like to stereotype artists and arts administrators negatively. There's plenty of justification on both sides. For what it's worth though, I prefer to to express my appreciation for the support that the Australian business community gives to the arts and look at ways to encourage them to do more. Slagging them off as a whole - while good fun and mother's milk to old-fashioned "faux-Marxist" types - probably doesn't help much with the latter.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 12:23:02 GMT 10
Post by timothystevens on Jun 5, 2007 12:23:02 GMT 10
It's simply about the bullshit use of language. That's all. Three cheers for rounding them up to listen to Paul, a demonstrably creative person and a thoroughly engaging speaker. But 'creative' is an adjective, and faux-Marxist or not I won't be browbeaten into the kind of relativist spinelessness that goes along with this nonsense. It's as though they took a kind of pride in having thought up a new usage, whereas (like the ubiquitous and vacuous 'excellence') the end result might actually be to cancel the word's meaning out altogether.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 15:20:30 GMT 10
Post by aj on Jun 5, 2007 15:20:30 GMT 10
Agreed ! I nominate Tim for the position of OJF Pedantic In Residence.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 16:24:49 GMT 10
Post by paulgrab on Jun 5, 2007 16:24:49 GMT 10
And I look forward to seeing you all there at the QMF. Many great ozjazz colleagues will be performing, many of them in remarkable contexts. Barker, McMahon, Dewhurst, Slater, Tinkler, Choulai, Wilson, Magnusson, Grant, Browne, Isaacs, Greening, Berardi, Rodgers, Griswold, Knight and Dalgleish are just some of the names appearing. Check out the program, disregard the use of gerunds, and explore the musical offerings.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 17:47:46 GMT 10
Post by isaacs on Jun 5, 2007 17:47:46 GMT 10
Agreed ! I nominate Tim for the position of OJF Pedantic In Residence. I'd be happy to give up the title. Tim has my vote.
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 18:13:28 GMT 10
Post by timothystevens on Jun 5, 2007 18:13:28 GMT 10
I thank you all. See you at Scone.
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bod
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 20:03:38 GMT 10
Post by bod on Jun 5, 2007 20:03:38 GMT 10
i don't know nothing but isn't it 'pedant in residence'?
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QMF
Jun 5, 2007 20:30:25 GMT 10
Post by isaacs on Jun 5, 2007 20:30:25 GMT 10
i don't know nothing but isn't it 'pedant in residence'? Ummm.... I think you're missing the joke, or are you also joking?
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QMF
Jun 6, 2007 15:55:49 GMT 10
Post by freddy on Jun 6, 2007 15:55:49 GMT 10
Fair enough Tim and aj. I'm sure plenty of business people also like to stereotype artists and arts administrators negatively. There's plenty of justification on both sides. For what it's worth though, I prefer to to express my appreciation for the support that the Australian business community gives to the arts and look at ways to encourage them to do more. Slagging them off as a whole - while good fun and mother's milk to old-fashioned "faux-Marxist" types - probably doesn't help much with the latter. What's the difference, in this context, between a "faux-Marxist" and a Marxist. If you're not sure, why don't you ring your friend who advised you last time. We can wait.
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QMF
Jun 6, 2007 16:32:32 GMT 10
Post by isaacs on Jun 6, 2007 16:32:32 GMT 10
Fair enough Tim and aj. I'm sure plenty of business people also like to stereotype artists and arts administrators negatively. There's plenty of justification on both sides. For what it's worth though, I prefer to to express my appreciation for the support that the Australian business community gives to the arts and look at ways to encourage them to do more. Slagging them off as a whole - while good fun and mother's milk to old-fashioned "faux-Marxist" types - probably doesn't help much with the latter. What's the difference, in this context, between a "faux-Marxist" and a Marxist. If you're not sure, why don't you ring your friend who advised you last time. We can wait. I'm not interested in answering your grouchy questions or taking your condescending advice. Have a nice day.
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