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Post by rastus7 on Mar 3, 2009 13:13:50 GMT 10
G'day all,
I've recently moved from Sydney to Melbourne, and am looking to get involved in the scene here. I'm a guitarist/bass player who would like to meet like minded people in the fusion space for all things musical! I've spent some time in Sydney playing keys in various rock bands, and guitar in a prog/fusion band, and would really love to get playing again locally.
With that in mind, can anyone point me in the right direction to get started please? Any information on venues, places to chat/meet/jam with like minds would be most appreciated.
Thanks so much for your time!
Cheers :-)
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Post by Sid Arbor on Mar 4, 2009 11:34:48 GMT 10
Sorry Rastus, looks like you got a typical melbourne response.
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Post by vickibonet on Mar 4, 2009 12:26:27 GMT 10
I have a feeling that there aren't a lot of big fusion fans on this forum. I wouldn't have a clue, but I felt mentioning that fact would be a very dull response.
Perhaps you could tune into the Fusion-y radio shows on PBS or RRR (if they still have them) as a start.
Meanwhile if you want to hear a brilliant live band go see Ish Ish on Friday - you could maybe talk to the musicians between the sets too. Some of them might even like fusion!
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Post by ironguts on Mar 5, 2009 17:41:28 GMT 10
No Sid, this is the typical Melbourne response; blow it out your arse you dull cunt,
Rastus7, check out 12 Tone Diamonds when they play or Andy Sugg maybe. VB made a good call, radio then go gigs etc.
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Post by aj on Mar 5, 2009 19:10:34 GMT 10
The only fusion I'm aware of lately is the fusion between golf and what Guts does on the course.
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Post by twombles62 on Mar 5, 2009 19:20:10 GMT 10
I love fusion but there's not alot that I know of in Melbourne. The Twelve Tone Diamonds are definitely the best I've come across.
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Post by Name goes in here on Mar 6, 2009 8:47:43 GMT 10
Heya guys,
Thanks for the info - I have 12 Tone's album, one of the best CDs I've heard for ages, that is bang on in the direction I'm headed.
Thanks for the radio/band/myspace leads btw, I will definitely follow them up.
For future reference, what type of jazz does "ozjazzforum" refer to?
Thanks for your time :-)
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Post by rastus7 on Mar 6, 2009 8:48:32 GMT 10
Whoops, forgot to login.
My post is the above one!
/noob
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Post by isaacs on Mar 6, 2009 16:56:21 GMT 10
For future reference, what type of jazz does "ozjazzforum" refer to? The intention is that ozjazzforum takes "Australian jazz" as a point of departure. There may be majority tastes at play sometimes but please feel welcome to talk about any styles. |
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Post by two cents on Mar 8, 2009 9:33:26 GMT 10
I would also recommend checking out Ren Walters.
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Post by isaacs on Mar 8, 2009 10:14:22 GMT 10
Actually Melbourne used to have a brilliant fusion band called Pyramid (featuring the two Davids Hirschfelder and Jones), who recalls that one? But I show my age.
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Post by ironguts on Mar 9, 2009 9:46:05 GMT 10
I remember Pyramid, saw them in Tassie in my teens, Bobby Venier on trp too, twas a good band.
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Post by vickibonet on Mar 9, 2009 10:12:26 GMT 10
Pyramid were great, my mum used to take us to see them. Bobby Venier is an awesome player, hey Adrian how about getting them to reform for 20th Wang?
Oh my God, I'm enthusing about fusion.
Speaking about Melbourne, can I just say how great it is that there is finally a decent llive venue here that has interesting jazz on the weekend? For too long Melbourne has been great for Jazz except Friday and Saturdays when it was mainly safe vocals/mainstream gigs.
Uptown last Friday proved you can have a full house AND innovative live music too.
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Post by isaacs on Mar 9, 2009 12:50:35 GMT 10
It occurs to me that a "comprehensive history" of modern Australian jazz (which I suggested in another thread is yet to be written) wouldn't leave out important Australian fusion bands like Pyramid, Crossfire and Steve Hunter's projects among others. It certainly wouldn't ignore modern mainstream players like Don Burrows, James Morrison, Kevin Hunt, Chuck Yates etc (and yes many non-Sydney mainstream players too). There are two schools that can get short shrift in some circles.
Is there an Australian jazz writer with catholic enough taste to write about the Australian jazz oeuvre objectively from such a non-sectarian viewpoint? There can be a blind spot about fusion and mainstream, and not only with writers. It's a shame, because it can sometimes disallow a complete articulation of the diversity of Australian jazz, which surely includes those two areas?
Singers can sometimes get sidelined too.
Just in case this is not read in conjunction with what I wrote at the Shand thread, this is not a crtiticism of his (or Clare's) book which do not claim to be comprehensive histories.
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Post by timothystevens on Mar 9, 2009 14:25:34 GMT 10
Not being aggro about it, but I actually feel that a comprehensive history – should such a thing be possible – should follow far more specific work on particular individuals and ensembles. What I think Andrew Bisset found when he wrote Black Roots, White Flowers was that by the time he'd dealt with dance bands and the first small traditional ensembles of the 1940s and 1950s, there wasn't time or room enough for the next twenty years to be covered in comparable depth. No wonder. To ask anyone to write a 'comprehensive history' even of 'modern jazz' in Australia, 'objectively', when it means investigating so many things for the first time, is a bit unreasonable. (Scare quotes to underline the point.)
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