dodgy
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Post by dodgy on Dec 24, 2009 11:08:25 GMT 10
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Post by aj on Dec 25, 2009 20:33:42 GMT 10
Not our fault if his ears are too small, yet still much larger than his brain!
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Post by alimcg on Dec 25, 2009 20:59:19 GMT 10
Ah, whingeing Poms - in print!
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Post by isaacs on Dec 26, 2009 0:05:11 GMT 10
I have a different take. I like people who have the guts to speak their mind even if they know it will bring howls of derision from true believers, so I like Stephen Hough and Andrew Marr even though I love Bach and I love jazz. But one can have too much of a good thing (as I have had of Christmas food today). When I've had enough of jazz and need something else to change the taste, what I need a break from is jazz's obsession with the linear, or more specifically the Single Line, so something about the "up and down and roundabout" mentioned in Marr's chiding resonates with me in the sense that when I have had a gutful of jazz that's what I've had a gutful of, just as when one has had too much cheese - no matter how much one adores it - well, animal fat is the culprit. Most of the rest of his criticism is unfair and could easily apply to most any other artform, but it's a good read and better than most of the other tripe that appears in newspapers. Somebody should put together a whole book where various people articulately twist the tits of sacred cows. Sushi bloody sushi would be another good one to take down (to continue with my culinary line).
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Post by giannim on Dec 26, 2009 7:38:54 GMT 10
Great read. Tongue firmly in cheek with most of them, and they all make good points!
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Post by aj on Dec 26, 2009 14:49:45 GMT 10
Yeah, I just get annoyed when some tosser decrees that all jazz is this or that.........what, all of it?
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Post by alimcg on Dec 26, 2009 18:02:09 GMT 10
Well, let's face it - we aren't all going to like everything. How dull if everyone agreed that Romeo&Juliet is a masterpiece.
Broad, sweeping statements made Grumpy Old Men... Reasoning and thoughtfulness would kill any humour. I like the though of people getting wound up about their loathing of Carmen, or Howard's End!
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Post by isaacs on Dec 26, 2009 18:28:20 GMT 10
Yeah, I just get annoyed when some tosser decrees that all jazz is this or that.........what, all of it? I know aj, there is the other side to be considered. The unnecessary feeding of prejudice. So I also love when you get grumpy about the tossers, that's good too  |
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dodgy
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Post by dodgy on Dec 28, 2009 9:19:25 GMT 10
Yeah, I just get annoyed when some tosser decrees that all jazz is this or that.........what, all of it? Shades of the global warming denials of Nick Minchin or Andrew Bolt ... what, none of the science is worth taking notice of? Marr says jazz "doesn’t make me excited, sad, wobbly, calm or indeed anything much". If he's serious, that's pretty sad. Either he hasn't listened to the right jazz (perhaps he's heard Diana Krall perform Jingle Bells) or he's impervious to any music. More likely he's merely doing the Andrew Bolt trick — writing to order with the intention of being controversial. It's tempting to say that any publicity (for jazz) is good publicity, but unfortunately it all contributes to the stupid idea that jazz is always inaccessible, so that people don't even try listening to it. Meantime, does anyone see a resemblance between Marr and someone closer to home? (I hope these pics work) Attachments:
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Post by isaacs on Dec 28, 2009 11:40:58 GMT 10
OT nice to be chatting here again. To some extent Facebook and other social networking media are going to make forums like this a bit redundant I suspect, but hopefully this will sputter along (soon to enter its 10th year). You can attach things here now, though the 1MB limit is not much good for music files.
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