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Post by trumpetguy on Oct 16, 2010 9:35:30 GMT 10
I believe there is an overlap as some AIR nominated albums are on labels that have ARIA nominated records.
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Post by Hunter Hayes on Oct 16, 2010 14:47:56 GMT 10
Based on this, then couldn't one assume that the jazz community is fairly well looked after by these awards in that as I understand it you have the ARIAS which cover the larger record labels and then the AIR awards which look after the independant releases. Surely in terms of the best releases in a particular year these would be acknowledged by either of these two awards?
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Post by timothystevens on Oct 16, 2010 15:21:31 GMT 10
Insofar as there is an award for each label category, they are covered. But there is a trad band somewhere playing 'Skip the gutter', right now. Someone is rolling out 'I'm old fashioned' in a piano trio. Elsewhere, without a doubt, someone is taking a swing at 'Giant steps'. The degree to which this speaks of the health of jazz at large remains debatable. That the things are happening is no guarantee against shithousery. The existence of an award does not speak necessarily of the integrity of its being awarded - surely this is obvious. My complaints against the ARIA award in particular have been made already, I think, so perhaps I'll shut up.
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Post by aj on Oct 16, 2010 17:38:36 GMT 10
I like the use of the word 'shithousery'.
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Post by lloydswanton on Oct 16, 2010 23:15:44 GMT 10
And of course the other downside of the ARIAs is that they only represent albums released on labels that are members of ARIA, which I imagine exludes a number of excellent releases in this country every year. I'm pretty sure we discussed this point on this forum a year or so ago. It's not only labels that can be members of ARIA. Artists, distributors, manufacturers can also join: www.ariaawards.com.au/faqs.phpI can only speak in the case of The Necks. Our label, Fish of Milk, is not a member of ARIA, but we've always been nominated by our distributor, Shock Records. If artists feel that they're missing out on consideration for the ARIAs, I think the first step is to ascertain whether anyone else in the chain of production is a member who could nominate them. If that draws a blank, they could consider applying for membership themselves. |
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Post by timothystevens on Oct 17, 2010 14:24:02 GMT 10
I like the use of the word 'shithousery'. Thanks. It's in my dictionary; in biro, but all the same |
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Post by isaacs on Oct 17, 2010 14:35:26 GMT 10
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Post by Paul on Nov 9, 2010 0:14:18 GMT 10
And not only Australian artists. The international artists who are imported also reflect Gatekeeper Taste. What are the chances of The Yellowjackets or Alan Holdsworth being brought to Australia? Yellowjackets toured Aus in Nov 2008 with Mike Stern. Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne. But yes, i do agree with your sentiment. |
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Post by isaacs on Nov 9, 2010 4:40:15 GMT 10
Yellowjackets toured Aus in Nov 2008 with Mike Stern. Brisbane, Sydney and Melbourne. But yes, i do agree with your sentiment. And I do remember that tour. I don't believe they played any Australian jazz festivals (though I may be wrong). I think the tour was initiated by the record label/promoter Vorticity. Vorticity are the exception to my generalisation in that their focus (amongst other things) has been traditionally fusion and thanks to them Australians have also been able to hear the phenomenal drummer Dave Wekl. Vorticity are no longer active unfortunately, although they still offer a back catalogue of Australian jazz CDs (including a couple of my own). |
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Post by TV addict on Nov 9, 2010 10:45:56 GMT 10
What has the music industry done to Megan Washington?
The ARIAs oh the horror!
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