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Post by vickijane on Mar 22, 2006 14:05:08 GMT 10
I am defending Fiona from the green eyed monster that is so apparent in this small community not stating that her voluntary work gives her a free pass. No matter who gets a fellowship, funding etc someone always has to bitch about it.
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Post by marksiks on Mar 22, 2006 17:18:53 GMT 10
I am not at all jealous of her. I admire her skills in promoting greatly and she is a lovely human being.
I am not doubting that she works hard, we all do.
I am merely suggesting that in order to do a PhD in composition, one must be of an extremely high standard in the chosen area.
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Post by plunk on Mar 23, 2006 20:00:18 GMT 10
So my advice is Vicki, stop being miss PC mother hen, Adrian and Kenny, say something other than about golf and slippers, Tinkler, get a fucking job, Jamie and Geoff, quit your jobs and get a life, and the rest of you...
fuck yez...
Hee hee...
Youre so right baby..
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Post by aj on Mar 23, 2006 21:50:32 GMT 10
when did I ever say anything about slippers ??
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Post by Kenny on Mar 23, 2006 22:31:04 GMT 10
Yeah, aj, I'm sick of these baseless slurs. Shit, I HATE golf. We's got us an image problem , bud.
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Post by captain on Mar 30, 2006 11:35:04 GMT 10
Now that I'm fully qualified professional musician (B.Mus) I agree with comment about students. ;D Young people think they know everything - which is true. We know everything that we know about. Old people are also smug, because they also know everythnig they know about. Sme people are naturally humble and they tend to be the greatest msuicians.
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Post by barbara1 on Mar 30, 2006 12:20:36 GMT 10
Old people are also smug, because they also know everythnig they know about. Sme people are naturally humble and they tend to be the greatest msuicians. I know, I know. |
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Post by ornette on Mar 31, 2006 0:18:05 GMT 10
I am not at all jealous of her. I admire her skills in promoting greatly and she is a lovely human being. I am not doubting that she works hard, we all do. I am merely suggesting that in order to do a PhD in composition, one must be of an extremely high standard in the chosen area. m6 You have some tabs on yourself m6 (your a sax player - a jealous one at that) Did you read Fiona's application? Well before making derogatory comments about other musos you should look into the facts - doing a Phd is about research not about writing a whole bunch of tunes. Good on ya Fiona- congrats! |
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Post by marksiks on Mar 31, 2006 7:24:51 GMT 10
Dr Mark Siks doesn't have sufficient ring to it. DId you read Fiona's application?
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Post by timothystevens on Mar 31, 2006 7:47:12 GMT 10
you should look into the facts - doing a Phd is about research not about writing a whole bunch of tunes. Just for the sake of accuracy, and according to the Adelaide University website, "The PhD degree may be awarded, via the Elder School of Music, by examination of either a thesis of original research or a portfolio of original compositions." It is not uncommon for a PhD in composition to be assessed at least partly by examination of a folio. |
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Post by filthwizard on Mar 31, 2006 8:27:50 GMT 10
Tinky you say that students these days have their heads way up their and/or each others arse's; is this from experience from melb or syd?? Cos as a stundent at a sydney institution i have to agree with you in full!!
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Post by tinky on Mar 31, 2006 8:49:34 GMT 10
Didn't say it quite like that but it sounds about right. Just to clarify, it was a fairly big generalisation on my part and I don't think all students are like that, however, there seems to be a fair few. I haven't really taught in Syd so can't comment about it, but I would expect it to be worse being Sydney. (joke)
One thing that really does astound me is the lack of students attending gigs. They go to these Uni's to study music but don't go see it. Some of my ensemble students have never seen me play and in some cases don't even know what I play. How could they respect what I say if they have no idea what I do? Yes I hear you, why don't I play for them? Well I'm there to teach, not to play, though at times I do explain by example, but its a very different thing to hearing me play live. I'm sure this is the same for many teachers.
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Post by Kenny on Mar 31, 2006 9:17:18 GMT 10
But maybe you wouldn't them at your gigs lest the natural respect of pupils for teacher is completely destroyed.
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Post by tinky on Mar 31, 2006 11:50:42 GMT 10
Yes, I guess if they did hear me play then what little respect is there would quickly turn and run away. Oh well, no win situation again.
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Post by tam on Apr 1, 2006 23:00:36 GMT 10
i gotta agree with tinky about the students. When i was at college i practically lived at mccoppins (and had the BEST time).
Doing gigs at bennetts with andrea once or twice a month - and she teaches at both vca and monash and has heaps of students.... where are they?? or going to see geoff play- there must be thirty guitarists at vca and NOT ONE turns up to see one of australia's best guitarists.... what a missed opportunity -to see a great teacher practise what they preach...
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