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Post by punter on Apr 18, 2006 23:50:19 GMT 10
problem is the music industry is so diverse
nothing wrong with playing a room a taking financial responsibility for yourself ie door deal
removes the pressure of having to answer artistically to the owner
i do think there should be some charter laying out conditions for weddings and corporate gigs
this is where a lot of musos earn bread and butter and it is where crap musos do a lot of undercutting\
if you got the 10 best musos on each instrument in town to sign up for it... that would make agents etc start to think and might get the fees up a bit
waddaya reckon??
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Post by johnnymastropaulos on Apr 19, 2006 1:21:49 GMT 10
aka... yes. contracts are an excellent idea.
I once had a verbal agreement with the "rape" lounge in fitzroy that we'd do a month of gigs there. we turned up, our drummer and bass player had actually SET UP. and they then told us we'd been 'double booked'. no contract. no case. no small claims tribunal.
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Post by aka on Apr 19, 2006 10:52:17 GMT 10
Exactamondo......
when I played in indie bands (not jazz...)back in the dark ages
we had a standard form agreement which also specified details like soundchecks/load ins/payment amounts and methods...usually most venues or promoters had no problems...they liked the certainty as much as the bands...
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Post by kimba on Apr 20, 2006 12:00:18 GMT 10
Yeah, it's really easy to run at a loss if you keep all the reciepts, and buy yourself a new guitar/drumkit/whatever every couple of years...
We managed to save enough cash to get os without paying any tax at all, and in fact, usually managing to get all the tax we paid on corporate gigs back as well.
It's tough to stay organised -- we ended up carrying a spare invoice book around with the ABN's of all the regular players recorded, so if they (inevitably) forgot to bring their book, we could still get the invoice we needed.
Ultra boring, but slightly profitable.
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Post by isaacs on Apr 20, 2006 12:45:53 GMT 10
we ended up carrying a spare invoice book around with the ABN's of all the regular players recorded, so if they (inevitably) forgot to bring their book, we could still get the invoice we needed I have a simpler solution to that. I make it clear I don't pay anybody until I get an invoice. I usually find the invoices come pretty promptly. |
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Post by kimba on Apr 20, 2006 21:26:37 GMT 10
try playing with Burndog and you'll see how far that gets you...
Guilt-trippin, pleading, blood-letting...
let's not even start on Carlo...
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