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Post by God on Sept 14, 2008 10:28:39 GMT 10
grammar ! bah humbug
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Post by timothystevens on Sept 14, 2008 14:38:52 GMT 10
Way to go Guts. This is an online forum, not Granta or the New Yorker for goodness sake. Not interested in upholding a standard irrespective? Have you cast your ARIA vote yet?
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Post by andrewh on Sept 14, 2008 18:15:24 GMT 10
Way to go Guts. This is an online forum, not Granta or the New Yorker for goodness sake. ...for goodness' sake, surely...
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Post by vickibonet on Sept 14, 2008 23:18:04 GMT 10
Way to go Guts. This is an online forum, not Granta or the New Yorker for goodness sake. Not interested in upholding a standard irrespective? Have you cast your ARIA vote yet? Nah, way too lazy. Plus, this forum doesn't have grammar check. Yeah I voted: for myself. Unfortunately as my last recording was released in 1988 on an indie label, it doesn't count. Sheesh! Sorry Andrew. I meant goodnes's sake (sic).
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Post by punter on Sept 15, 2008 0:15:30 GMT 10
Yeah go (sic)
Still interested to know what John Durr from Blackmarket music thinks about the ARIAs
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Post by captain on Sept 15, 2008 14:41:57 GMT 10
I think as an insider he thinks they're just as much of a pile of crap as us, but he also told me interesting things about being schmoozed by various artists representatives to vote for their product. Like, 'Hey John, hows it going, listen, you just HAVE to check out this amazing band/singer/guitarist/album....'
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Post by alimcg on Sept 29, 2008 22:58:27 GMT 10
Well, Hemi-demi-semi didn't win. Oh damn.
Congrats to Andrea - be careful with the award, they can be quite dangerous.
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Post by vickibonet on Oct 1, 2008 22:02:13 GMT 10
Yes but not quite as dangerous as the Mo awards statues. They are very scary indeed.
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Post by bogus on Oct 20, 2008 7:18:15 GMT 10
Melbourne pianist Andrea Keller has won the Aria Award for Best Jazz Album 2008 for Footprints, her interpretation of compositions by Wayne Shorter. Who would've thunk it...
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Post by Lloyd Swanton on Apr 21, 2009 1:32:52 GMT 10
As far as I know, nominations come from either artists, managers or record companies, ie anyone can nominate themselves. (Not sure if there is some fee involved) No, only record companies can nominate (ARIA is an association of record companies). And only record companies who are members of ARIA. The record companies generally put all their releases forward in each category. All the majors, large independents (often distributed by majors anyway) and some small labels are members of ARIA. Small labels can join ARIA for a few hundred dollars a year. If your record label is not an ARIA member you're out of the race. Actually, Mark, that's not correct. According to the ARIA Awards website, "ARIA members can be artists, record companies, CD distributors, manufacturers, etc." There's plenty of info here: www.ariaawards.com.au/faqs.phpFish of Milk (the label run by Chris Abrahams, Tony Buck, and myself to release The Necks' albums) has never been a member of ARIA, but our distributor Shock Records is, and it is they who nominate us.
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Post by isaacs on Apr 21, 2009 4:28:35 GMT 10
Thanks for that information Lloyd, and I apologise to the forum for providing a misleading statement. I was correct in saying that only ARIA members can nominate, but incorrect in assuming that only "record companies" can join ARIA. If I'd reflected, I would have put record distributors under the "record company" umbrella anyway, as the two overlap so often e.g. Universal are both a record company and a distributor, although as far as I know Shock and (say) MGM are distributors but not "makers" of recordings in the usual record company sense. But of course as you have clarified the latter are still eligible to join ARIA. The fact that artists or others associated with the record industry can also join ARIA - and thus nominate - is very important information. This means that artist-generated recordings have potentially three ways to submit them to the ARIAs. They can join ARIA as artists, or their label could join (in your case one assumes that either The Necks or Fish of Milk could in theory join ARIA). Or otherwise, their distributor, if an ARIA member, could submit the recordings, as is the case for you with Shock. Certainly there seems to be adequate potential to widen the field of ARIA submissions. However, looking here www.aria.com.au/pages/membership-criteria.htm one qualification that is pertinent is that an ARIA Member must be the "owner or exclusive licensee" of the sound recordings. So for artists to join they would need to be the "owner" of the recordings, which they would be by default if they paid for them. Historically the "owner or exclusive licensee" requirement would have led to the situation I erroneously described as current, as not so very long ago it was only record companies who owned or licensed recordings. But, fortunately - not any more. My original statement was in contradiction of Adrian, as you have quoted. But while it is not as restrictive as I thought, the ability to nominate is not as free as Adrian suggested because of the owner/licensee requirement and indeed the requirement to be an ARIA member which is predicated on the former. Also regarding a fee to nominate which Adrian wasn't sure on, as far as I know there is no fee to nominate, but rather a joining and membership fee for ARIA itself which then gives the entitlement to nominate.
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