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Post by Kenny on Apr 2, 2005 18:14:28 GMT 10
Freaking hell, halftime: Melbourne 24 Brisbane 4.
Awesome!
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Post by Kenny on Apr 2, 2005 20:45:43 GMT 10
Cor - 50-4!
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Post by isaacs on Apr 2, 2005 23:18:52 GMT 10
If I was to ban ONE thing here, it would be discussion of sport. Like... just to delete this thread, I have the power, and I'm bloody tempted...
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Post by Kenny on Apr 2, 2005 23:23:45 GMT 10
That would be UNAUSTRALIAN! Mark, I can't believe you would even think of banning sport! Hrmphhh! (Who is your team anyway?)
Seriously, mate, you're missing out.
I'll miss my day off with Bennie tomorrow. But I plan to spend the day in full-on couch potato mode: Newspapers, books, various games of footy (round and oval ball both), heaps of music (unless the footy gets real good) and then the Bahrain GP (after the Tinkler gig). Ahhhh - heaven.
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Post by isaacs on Apr 3, 2005 8:51:33 GMT 10
Of course I was (half) joking. Well I did think of banning it, but I would never do it of course. But, honestly, I - just - don't - get - sport! I must say I've noticed sport is taken even more seriously in Melbourne than Sydney for some reason. Here, I know quite a few people (especially musicians) who have the open disdain coupled with complete lack of interest that I do. And I never hear musicians here talk about sport or display the strange concept that one must have one's own team to barrack for. Then I play a gig in Melbourne and the musicians are talking about "the game". On a slightly more serious note, one could make political points about the paltry amount of Government support for excellence in the arts when compared with what is lavished on sport, the fact that the tall poppy syndrome NEVER applies to "elite" sportsmen and women when "elite" becomes a sneer term when applied to artists and intellectuals, and so on to the point where one could say that, be it unAustralian or not, a few people in this country need to make it their mission to provide a counter-balance to this pernicious obsession with this strange past-time. Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, you're a highly articulate, erudite man, are you are not concerned at being reduced to the guttural grunts above "Freaking hell, halftime, whooaaa! go storm!" etc etc??  |
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Post by vickihb2 on Apr 3, 2005 8:57:59 GMT 10
Oh MY GOD! Mr Isaacs! Swearing on the forum! Mon Dieu! Allah Akubra, Deo Mio, Oi veh! Crikey! Streuth! Deep breath: I'll stop kvetching for a moment. Now Kenny, you do realise you are courting Death by mentioning any sport on this jazz forum? Start praying to your ancestors that Mr Chindamo never reads this thread. Get that man on the subject of Australia's ridiculous obsession with sport versus the arts and you'll see what I mean. (Scary.)  I'm an AFL woman myself, raised with the Tigers, will die with the Tigers, poor Tigers at the moment, unfortunately, unlike Tinkler... I have only been to a few live football games around the time Tinkler was a toddler. By the way as a woman brought up in the Catholic Church what I want to know is; is the fucking Pope dead yet? Honestly talk about a Camile act. Catholics give great theatre, you have got to admit it! Are we going to be banned for speaking about religion Mark? Whoops. Oh well... I'll out myself now: I'm an ordained minister in the Ministry/Church Of Life (the Internet one, which takes two minutes to join). In the USA I can legally perform marriages, baptisms etc. but the older I get the more I think believing in an all-seeing-God-who-is-sitting-somewhere-watching-each-of us-and-taking-copious-notes is an ego thing with humans who simply can't face their own mortality. (Either that or God has one hell of a typing pool). At the same time, I do believe in spirituality and I don't think anything just ends when the body is dead. I firmly believe that religion has contributed far more to the arts than sport ever has, (with the exception of the opening of the Olympics). All that neurosis and guilt does wonders for producing great music. But far more importantly I think Stinky should still be on top so I'll go and fix that now. |
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Post by Kenny on Apr 3, 2005 11:53:30 GMT 10
Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, you're a highly articulate, erudite man, are you are not concerned at being reduced to the guttural grunts above "Freaking hell, halftime, whooaaa! go storm!" etc etc?? Er, none of the above! Very funny about the Melbourne/Sydney/sport/jazz thing. I am, of course, entirely sympathetic to diatribes about the injustices in funding and standing of sports versus arts. But - come game time or otherwise - I'm not gonna sweat it too much. It'd make me a bit nutty and the games give me heaps of pleasure. Mind you, as stated above, unless it's gripping I have the telly on with the sound off and the jazz/whatever blaring. There have been times when I would've found the interest in music and sports a little uncomfortable, but these days - talking daily with people all over the world - I've realised it's an entirely natural thing. What I find a whole lot more mind-warping is the fact that, particularly in the US, there are so many jazz-lovin' Far Right-wing nut jobs around. Sheeesh, talk about chalk and cheese! I've seen my share of thread of the "Can you dig jazz and be a Republican" variety! Fireworks galore. And if Joe Chindamo feels so strongly about it, he should move to, er, Sydney. Kenny: Barracks for whoever is playing Collingwood or Carlton, but otherwise couldn't really give a rat's arse about AFL. Loves the Storm. Is tragically addicted to watching the Socceroos blow it again and again and again. Suppports anyone but Ferarri, especially Mark Webber, who is urning out to be a bit of disappointment. Supports whoever is playing Australia at cricket. Hopes an Aussie wins the Masters. Has been known to watch such things as truck racing or dwarf tossing or birdman rallies or tenpin bowling. Thinks baseball is perhaps the best of all, but realises it's never gonna be the deal in Oz. |
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Post by Kenny on Apr 3, 2005 12:03:51 GMT 10
By the way as a woman brought up in the Catholic Church what I want to know is; is the fucking Pope dead yet? Honestly talk about a Camile act. Catholics give great theatre, you have got to admit it! Blimey don't get me started. |
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Post by isaacs on Apr 3, 2005 12:59:11 GMT 10
Alright Kenny, if I am to open my mind to this sport thing can you just explain what a few things mean, because they mean nothing to me.
1. What or who is "Storm"?
2. What is "The Masters"?
3. Who are "The Soceroos"?
4. What is Collingwood?
5. What is Carlton? (apart from being the solidly working class suburb of Sydney I grew up in)
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Post by bud on Apr 3, 2005 14:30:53 GMT 10
u guys r all weirdos  |
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Post by happy on Apr 4, 2005 16:04:48 GMT 10
Is tragically addicted to watching the Socceroos blow it again and again and again. Supports whoever is playing Australia at cricket. amen, amen |
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Post by the young ones on Apr 4, 2005 17:34:05 GMT 10
Here, I know quite a few people (especially musicians) who have the open disdain coupled with complete lack of interest that I do. And I never hear musicians here talk about sport or display the strange concept that one must have one's own team to barrack for. Mark, you're showing your age. In Sydney alone, there's a considerable number of youngish jazz musos who both talk and play sport with equal gusto. Cricket seems to have been the big thing recently, but maybe that's just because the cricket season has just passed. (Although at Wang a year or so back, there was a revolving game of cricket at one of the hotels involving 20 something musos from Sydney, Melbourne and Perth. Adrian Klumpes is a bowling dynamo, for example.) The two are not mutually exclusive, except when it comes to things like funding, airplay, awards, australians of the year etc when it is of course a much different story |
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Post by isaacs on Apr 4, 2005 18:37:21 GMT 10
No, I was exaggerating for effect of course! I have noticed the Sydney/Melbourne discrepancy though. Of course music/sport are not mutually exclusive. For the record, I do work with quite a few musicians in their early 20s and hadn't heard much sports talk, but my sample is not hugely wide of course. But, come to think of it, I do remember calling Felix Bloxsom on his mobile once, and was shocked to hear him report that he was at the cricket. So your point is well taken!
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Post by bod on Apr 5, 2005 8:17:20 GMT 10
music and sport are great partners!
both have been turned into mere 'product' making them fitter for mass consumption over active participation.
music could learn so much from sport:
sport appeals to the commoner cos she knows it's all about winning and losing.
joe schmoe knows all about that, no aesthetics required.
anyone watching american idol at the mo?
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Post by vickihb2 on Apr 5, 2005 11:15:53 GMT 10
Mark Isaacs
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1. What or who is "Storm"?
2. What is "The Masters"?
3. Who are "The Soceroos"?
4. What is Collingwood?
5. What is Carlton? (apart from being the solidly working class suburb of Sydney I grew up in) "
Storm: Rugby players who keep beating everyone - a Melbourne based team.
Soceroos have got to be a soccer team( I guess)
Collingwood is an AFL football team loathed by every person in Victoria who doesn't barrack for them.
Carlton is a trendy suburb in inner Melbourne where people get shot in the street and there are lots of great Italian restaurants to eat in. Also an AFL team.
Masters - dunno.
The young ones: "cricket"!
Sorry mate, I just don't get cricket, BUT one of my favourite Bollywood movies of all time is Lagan (Tax)- I think I spelt Title correctly) a classic about an Indian cricket team at the turn of the 20th century.
Anyway all jazz gentlemen should know that Tennis is the only sport worth watching on TV. Better to play it or see it live, soccer good live too (yes, I used to play five a side- soccer in the UK, too old now). I have even held the FA cup in my very hands.
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