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Post by Mr Mic on Mar 10, 2005 20:35:54 GMT 10
Time for a day off Vicki..sometimes I don't know
what day it is...
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Post by Kenny on Mar 11, 2005 8:42:52 GMT 10
nah, I'm not mad, I'm just trying to get a little discussion going, you know? I do think it's a shame that Leon doesn't seem to review local artists so much anymore (although I wouldn't be surprised to be proven wrong) I think he still does locals, but not so many in recent months. I'd have to say that trying to get reviews in the Green Guide is most likely a pretty dispiriting exercise these days. Some weeks the music reviews don't run at all. And when they do, they're crammed in with stuff on games and so on. I can't see them being in there for too much longer. It's not a good look. The music stuff looks like an unwlecome guest. In the meantime, the EG seems to be the main Age repository of recorded music reviews, although historically there has never been jazz in that rag. The Sunday Age mag is running CD reviews, too. How times change - the Green Guide used to be the only game in town in this regard. |
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Post by not joe chindamo on Mar 11, 2005 17:59:37 GMT 10
Weeknights at 11.20pm Graeme Lyall meets Joe Chindamo Thursday 17 March 2005 Presented by Lucky Oceans Summary: The rest of the world is increasingly discovering what not a few Australians know already: Joe Chindamo is a marvellous pianist. He’s already topped the jazz charts in Japan & recently conquered the boot-shaped land of his ancestors. Joe wants more people to know that Graeme Lyall - an adult hero & major inspiration source back when Joe was a child prodigy - is one of the world’s more marvellous saxophonists. The two Melbourne men have long known each other, but as co-leaders, “Love, Blues and Other Fiction” is their first meeting. Rarely is a mutual admiration society so much fun! Their CD is full of warmth & good humour & their quartet’s younger members are splendid too: bassist Sam Anning & drummer Ben VanderWal. Highlights include Joe’s (dare we suggest, autobiographical?) composition, “The Manic Impressive” & Graeme’s “Sour Georgie Green”. Joe Chindamo’s site: www.joechindamo.comDuring March 2005 the Joe Chindamo Trio plays Bennetts Lane in Melbourne, every Wednesday night: www.bennettslane.com |
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Post by Memory man on Mar 13, 2005 8:22:32 GMT 10
In the meantime, the EG seems to be the main Age repository of recorded music reviews, although historically there has never been jazz in that rag. Historically, there has. In the 1980s and early 1990s, at least Mike Daly, Derek Leather and our own AJ were contributing to a weekly column and record reviews. |
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Post by aj on Mar 13, 2005 8:41:51 GMT 10
not that it matters a great deal, but for the record : I did write on jazz regularly for the EG in 2 separate stints. (A weekly column, as well as the odd feature. I recall interviewing Pat Metheny & being reprimanded for ignoring the editor's advise to spice it up by asking him what he thought of Madonna. !!??)
At one stage, Graeme Osborne, then later Derek Leather, did the weekly column. But jazz has been seen as 'inapropriate' for EG's readership for some years now.
(Oddly enough, advertisers seem to think that the EG readership IS interested in jazz, and the jazz advertising dollar is welcome there).
I also used to do CD reviews for the Green Guide ; Mike Daly also did the odd one there at times ; Leon Gettler has been doing them for several years now (as Kenny points out, when he gets a run, or indeed if any cd reviews get a run).
Derek gets the odd one into the Sunday Age, but if anyone can spot a coherent policy as to what gets reviewed there, let me know !
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Post by happy on Mar 13, 2005 8:44:42 GMT 10
so what is it that causes a change like that - can kenny or Aj help us out here? Is it tied into advertising revenues or more on the whim of editor at the time?
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Post by aj on Mar 13, 2005 11:13:19 GMT 10
I think it boils down to the editor's whim. In the case of EG, if it was advertising driven, jazz would get a better go.
When EG was introduced, it replaced the Weekender, with a brief of attracting a younger readership.
Whether it came from higher up the food chain, or from the cocky (self styled) bright young things who filled the EG editor's chair
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Post by aj on Mar 13, 2005 11:15:49 GMT 10
as I was saying, whether it came from the EG editor or someone higher up, the attitude was that jazz was horribly daggy &/or impossibly esoteric (maybe both ?), and could only appeal to boring old people.
at first that meant you could have a weekly column but no features ; eventually that became a policy of pretending jazz doesn't exit.
blatantly stupid, but there it is.
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Post by vickihb2 on Mar 13, 2005 13:12:40 GMT 10
The Age has a new editor, who previously edited the Scotsman, a highly respected paper in the UK. By the way he's an Englishman! He was (allegedly) affectiontely known by his staff as "wee Jock". Write to: The Age, 250 Spencer Street, Melbourne, 3000. or since you are already online www.theage.com.auwww.smh.com.auSo how to get jazz in the print media? There are so many ways! After I saw a review of an IshIsh cd I wrote a letter to the green guide congratulating them on inlcuding Australian content. They printed it. So instead of one review - Ish Ish got two plus it sent a message to the paper that readers want to read about local original improvised music. Another way to lobby for jazz is to click on to Mal's landing page at www.abc.net.au a few times a week, and download a show or even just keep the page open for a minute. Web Masters measure unique visitors, how long they stay on the site and where they go next. The Execs pay lots of attention to web traffic now. This is the new marketing. If you see or hear something good ring the boradcasters or publishers up or write and tell them you liked it BUT keep it SHORT! Letter page editors don't like letters longer than 250 words, and neither do readers. Most people read the shortest letters on the page before the long ones. Another idea- don't call it 'jazz'. People who are ignorant of contemporary jazz think jazz stopped in the 50s and we are never going to change that perception, so don't bother wasting your breath. I am currently considering starting a lobby group for Australians for Improvised Australian Music (AAIM) I don't know if I have the time to do this but I think now is the time to start. We HAVE to do something and organise, or we'll lose everything. Adrian: I haven't been watching Bacall and Bogey, I don't need to, I know the scripts by heart. I know you get lobbied for singers, that is cool, just make sure they are decent ones. You know I love your work, Mr Jackson! I believe booking Jessica Williams would help your gender and diversity balance at Wangaratta. back to my day off which is great. Oh and today I have been listening to: 24 Hour Blues - Mark Fitzgibbon On Reflection - Mark Isaacs Debussy Jukka Perko Graeme and Joe - Love Blues and other Fiction. And here is some trivia for you. I have a CD of Graeme Lyall playing with my Dad from the 70s when papa was with W & G.. The tune was arranged by Mr Lyall and there is the most wicked sax solo on it. Anyone who wants to hear it needs to turn up to my place with a bottle of decent vodka. |
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Post by phil on Mar 16, 2005 10:23:39 GMT 10
this morning, a great band from Germany called Novotnik 44. Anyone know it?
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Post by Kenny on Mar 19, 2005 12:28:33 GMT 10
Well this year I've decided to become a Storm supporter. Bennie and I went to Olympic Park to watch them thrash Newcastle last Sunday and it was awesome. 10,000 crowd that makes a lot of noise. And yes, we got our names on the guest list!
Tonight, after the first edition has gone to bde, I'll watch them play St george on the telly.
A pity I haven't got cable, as later on I'd then watch Wales play Ireland for the Grand Slam. Wales playing good = good for rugby!
Hey, who else is LOVING seeing Channel 9 and its host of loathesome personalities squirm? Yum yum pig's bum.
Until the league kicks in or off, I'll be periodically tuning into the following:
Mel Brown - Greasy Chicken (Yes! At, long last my life-long quest to own an album called Greasy Chicken has been fulfilled! Love it!)
Organissimo - Waiting For The Boogaloo Sisters (Organ trio from Michigan, the bulletin board of which I frequent occasionally.)
Jimmy Giuffre 3 - The Easy Way. (Very very cool - subversive cardigan jazz with Jim Hall and Ray Brown.)
William Parker - Mayor Of Punkville (splurged recently on three of thid dude's albums thus removing one of my multitudinous blind spots. A little underwhelmed so far.)
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Post by vickihb2 on Mar 19, 2005 23:13:18 GMT 10
Melbourne Storm! Yee hah those boys are sexy!  Give me a rugby man any day of the week, sigh! |
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Post by smokinhiro on Mar 20, 2005 13:42:24 GMT 10
recently, i'm so hooked on this los angeles unsung hero, christian jacob. i'm transcribing him like a maniac :>
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Post by happy on Mar 21, 2005 13:39:37 GMT 10
I've never heard of that Christian Jacob guy, Hiro. Got any links we can check out?
While refusing to engage in any discussion of that celebration of thuggery laughingly called a game, I see our friend with the wandering forefinger has raised his sights to just wacking the shit out of people. Great education for the kiddies!
This week's listening highlight: Bach organ pieces. Sublime.
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Post by Kenny on Mar 23, 2005 12:45:03 GMT 10
*Maria Schneider Orchestra - Concert In The Garden. This, her latest and only available from her website, is quite nice. But ... I bought it on the basis of a very strong recommendation from somone who will remain nameless (Gerry Koster), and once again the man has sold me a pup.  Hey, I'm kidding, really. There's a sort of dreaminess to her music that is engrossing. I think this will keep on growing on me. And the Krallesque cover pics is a hoot.  *Mel Brown - Chicken Fat *Bill Holman - In A Jazz Orbit  |
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Hey, I'm kidding, really. There's a sort of dreaminess to her music that is engrossing. I think this will keep on growing on me. And the Krallesque cover pics is a hoot.