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Post by march on Jul 14, 2005 18:12:31 GMT 10
For me (and not everybody), disscussions such as these turn nasty fast. People draw lines in the sand and ask other to do the same. Why? Maybe because everybody feels insecure about being sliced, diced, quatered and categorised. Jazz as a word is idiotic. As soon as it is mentioned people are at each others throats. Why not be happy creating music? Your music can be informed by any sort of other music. If the music is honest, I think it deserves to be heard. By who? Anybody. Whether the music is honest or not can only be determined by the musicians performing it. Noboby else really has the right to judge other people's music. If musicians try to fake honesty; soon all will know. Maybe not today, maybe not tommorrow.
Might I ad that I make no claim in being a perfect listener of music. I, like every other imperfect human who listens to music, have opinions. I like to hear certain things in music. If I don't hear those things, mostly I don't enjoy the music. I will not, however, ever deem the music somebody else creates as unworthy of attention (unless intoxicated).
Just a few thoughts.
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Post by Not God on Jul 14, 2005 23:10:51 GMT 10
i'm so broke I can;t even afford to go to bennetts get in for free and drink water all night :-(
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Post by Rosalind on Jul 14, 2005 23:21:06 GMT 10
Its interesting how women get called bitches so often these days so comfortably so much so that younger women use the term to describe themselevs and other women but the 'bitchiest' comments and acts seem to me, a female new to this place of thoughts in written form, to come from the men. Some of you guys (males from the IDs unless they are fakes) on this forum seem nasty in a kind of passive aggressive way often. Just your average , real world seeping, into jazz. Sad really.
I was looking for some new inspiration and I just got depressed.
A lot of neagtive unhelpful egocentric crap here.
That said Ive found some very good stuff too from the men as well as the women. How do we know anyone is who they say they are anyway?
Time to jump off the bridge. Splash.
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Post by vickihb2 on Jul 15, 2005 9:18:58 GMT 10
I do hope you can swim. I don't think that is true, about the bitching, I believe we have gender equity on this forum, not in numbers true, but certainly in negative vs positive comments.
I am a real female by the way. Promise.
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Post by Kenny on Jul 15, 2005 9:45:18 GMT 10
Its interesting how women get called bitches so often these days so comfortably so much so that younger women use the term to describe themselevs and other women but the 'bitchiest' comments and acts seem to me, a female new to this place of thoughts in written form, to come from the men. Some of you guys (males from the IDs unless they are fakes) on this forum seem nasty in a kind of passive aggressive way often. Just your average , real world seeping, into jazz. Sad really. I was looking for some new inspiration and I just got depressed. A lot of neagtive unhelpful egocentric crap here. That said Ive found some very good stuff too from the men as well as the women. How do we know anyone is who they say they are anyway? Time to jump off the bridge. Splash. Well, hell, thanks a bunch for checking into one of my cyber hangouts and getting to know us all so well before pronouncing your verdict from on high. None more so than your effort. You're obviously an expert. Perhaps you should lighten up a bit.  |
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Post by march on Jul 15, 2005 9:48:08 GMT 10
ouch!
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Post by vickihb2 on Jul 15, 2005 16:51:13 GMT 10
I think Rosaline is a bit depressed by the sounds of things.
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Post by johnyf on Jul 15, 2005 16:51:32 GMT 10
nasty in a kind of passive aggressive way often. Just your average , real world seeping, into jazz. passive aggressive, inactive violent? unreceptive antagonistic? submissive belligerent? flaccidly hostile? My imaginary jazz world can't cope with real-world lingo!  |
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Post by vickihb2 on Jul 15, 2005 16:58:48 GMT 10
You should read Death Sentence by Don Watson, it is brilliant, if you haven't already.
Here is a quote from the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet (from the book).
"Funding for legal aid is increasingly meeting less of the demand, but allocating additional funds on a one-off basis without a specific reason may be seen as an admission by the Government that funding is insufficient.
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Post by johnk on Jul 18, 2005 15:42:12 GMT 10
Its interesting how women get called bitches so often these days so comfortably 2 a degree u have a point. if so much R & B & Hip Hop use soft porn videos and words offensive to intelligent adults & people just accept it, nothing will change & things get worse |
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Post by happy on Jul 22, 2005 8:35:22 GMT 10
One of the things that I really value about this forum is the opportunity to discuss ideas with a real frankness sometimes lacking when everyone is trying to 'work the biz'. Perhaps this frankness comes across as nastiness - there is so little work/money to be got in this scene, and sometimes there is a perception that favouritism gets in the way of some people getting the opportunities they deserve.
If you want a more positive slant, try the 'what are you listening to' thread, where I've been introduced to some music that I otherwise may never have heard. (it's my favourite thread, even tho often its only me and kenny there!) it's a place where people who love music can share the music that they love
(there, that Hallmark sentiment should balance all of our bad bitchy karma!!!!!)
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Post by belindablahsome on Jul 22, 2005 11:27:21 GMT 10
right on happy, loved your post.. favorite ojf post so far.
BTW I'm listening to...
Youssou N'Dour - Egypt
YoYo Ma- cello suites. inspired by Bach
( all the Y's )
whoops wrong thread again!
dear diary, i got a rejection email yesterday that has me so blue i truly wonder how smart a move it is to return to Australia. there are just so many opportunities in jazz - can be said with so many different melodies. :-
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Post by isaacs on Jul 22, 2005 13:13:38 GMT 10
Don't let it get to you Belinda. With distance it won't mean anything. Steel is tempered in the furnace. We have to stay our course whatever. Rejection hurts, but usually there's another better door and passageway with your name on it.
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Post by alisonblahblah on Jul 22, 2005 13:59:00 GMT 10
Hi Belinda-
I miss you!! who sent you a letter of rejection? are they stupid or what? when you coming back to melbourne?
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Post by belindablahblah on Jul 25, 2005 6:18:35 GMT 10
thank you ali and mark.
mark.. rejection is a test of mettle for sure. i had youngster visions that things would be much easier at this stage of jazz life. (stop laughing.. youth is all-innocent)
hey ali. i play the secret often..think it sounds soooo good, and instantly reminded of you. been writing more songs. I'll be home October 17..bringing shiro with me.
xxx
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