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Post by shaggaz on Sept 6, 2005 19:15:50 GMT 10
Very disappointed that Ben Gillespie didn't get in, but otherwise...  |
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Post by michael k on Sept 6, 2005 20:21:21 GMT 10
yes, as am i shaggaz...that wouldve added some spice to the starch.
am interested to see how the younguns go though....
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Post by steely dan on Sept 7, 2005 18:42:23 GMT 10
biggups for sophie brous!! its great to see her name on the list, and not suprising.
im guessing she'll be the surprise package at the fest. saw her at bennets lane (sic?) with aaron (choulai) a few weeks back and was really impressed by what shes doing.
hooray for gian and alison also.
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Post by mim on Sept 8, 2005 2:11:49 GMT 10
Agreed, hooray for Gian and Alison. Gian is a lovely person and lovely singer. And Alison has helped me immeasurably over the past year and half, although I don't know if she knows that! At the very least she has been a constant musical inspiration.
And don't forget about Adelaide, everybody! Jo Lawry, my first jazz singing teacher, is coming back to Oz from NY, and I'm very excited that I'll get to see her in this festival. I haven't heard her since she left Adelaide 2 years ago, but she was awesome then, and she's been performing with Jon Faddis among others, so I can only assume that might aid one's development.
Seeing as I have fairly equal biases towards Jo and Alison, I vote for a good clean weekend of fun. ;D
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Post by not Emmas Mum on Sept 8, 2005 10:08:36 GMT 10
Emma, Emma, Emma, go go go!
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Post by musiciansingermusician on Sept 21, 2005 19:32:20 GMT 10
hey Bimbo-
what, by your definition, is a strong vocalist? (quote: Gian, great musician but not such a strong vocalist my bet is on Emma Sidney)
this is what i bet will be the most contentious issue of the competition: this perceived dichotomy between musician/singer, that somehow the two are mutually exclusive. it's a perception that singer's face constantly - gian slater, to follow your contention, is an example of a singer who possesses as much harmonic knowledge and awareness, technique and expressive capacity of any instrumentalist, and is, as such, a creative musician of the highest integrity and artistic conviction. yet somehow you don't hear this, that this does not equate to 'strength' as a vocalist. is it the audience that forges this singer/musician divide? are the dillusions of australian idol's relentless conditioning that any idiot can be an arbitor of what is authentic and valid singing based on the most shallow of perceptions penetrating the jazz listenership? vocalists in forums like the wangaratta competition will only ever be a novelty if this perception of the singer/musician divide continues. when will it become about music, rather than 'idolesque' value judgements of listeners still with training wheels on their ears?
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Post by bossa nova on Sept 22, 2005 12:57:15 GMT 10
if you don't have the chops you don't have the chops: is fine aside that is what it he's talking about I think. IE you need the tools to do the job
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Post by mim on Sept 23, 2005 18:06:07 GMT 10
Gian is a wonderful, beautiful and creative musician/singer. That doesn't necessarily equate to a strong voice. I have heard Gian only in an intimate setting where, although one can choose to use a big strong sound, one is not required to do so. The Gian I have seen has chosen not to. This is certainly not to say that when identical criteria (This is assuming that physical vocal strength is part of the criteria) for each musician is placed upon each of them in a competitive setting Gian won't deliver. After hearing Elana Stone on Sunday night (which I really enjoyed!) and speaking to her afterwards I get the feeling that the kind of stuff she sings in her own gigs is really quite different to what she'll sing in the finals. Gian might be the way.
It's really an odd concept, to place 10 very individual musicians in a situation where they are being asked to fit the same criteria. Every singer that I know in this competition is so different from the others in sound and style. I can't wait to hear what comes out of them at Wang!
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Post by jazz vs sport on Sept 24, 2005 11:43:22 GMT 10
Yes well it is an odd concept to make sport out of music in any sense isn't it? It's not just the singing competition that pits individuals against each other, it's the same every year at Wang no matter what instrument. Who gives a sh*t who wins, they're all great and we'll still go to their gigs. At least it's giving them a chance to gain more of audience.
Ps. But because there has to be a winner, please hope the judges pick the most creative and original so we can progress this music.
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Post by visitor on Sept 25, 2005 2:41:22 GMT 10
nicely put
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Post by tigress on Sept 25, 2005 11:33:39 GMT 10
hopefully this comp will bring more musos to vocal gigs...not enough of the local jazz players come and check out the several very musical and interesting singers around melbounre who are also featured as finalists this year. there are some very strong compsoers amongst this mix also.
its not just about scooby wap and fly me to the moon.
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Post by jazz vs sport on Sept 25, 2005 11:43:09 GMT 10
not enough of the local jazz singers come and check out musical and interesting instrumentalists around melbourne.
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Post by agree on Sept 25, 2005 12:28:09 GMT 10
here here
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Post by grumpy on Sept 25, 2005 15:07:41 GMT 10
i'm staying home from ALL your gigs til you can be nice to each other so there
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Post by drummergirl on Sept 25, 2005 15:37:24 GMT 10
really?? i see sophie and alison at gigs all the time checking out and supportin the good gigs round town...in fact i was told that sophie helped out quite a lot with the half bent festival that was on.
but this is not a singers vs instrumentalist thread. i dont think many players still think in such obtuse ways...
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