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Post by captain on Nov 27, 2006 16:25:09 GMT 10
or do bite, it's more fun. ;D
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Post by timothystevens on Nov 27, 2006 16:30:04 GMT 10
I'm with Paul.
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Post by oj on Nov 27, 2006 16:33:42 GMT 10
Pettman, are you Colin Hopkins?
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Post by captain on Nov 27, 2006 16:37:48 GMT 10
Timothystevens, are you PaulGrab?  |
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Post by pettman on Nov 27, 2006 16:38:22 GMT 10
Colin Hopkins? A fine player indeed. His Paper Hat Trio is quite enjoyable though lacking in recognizable material for me. I understand the freedom that these players wish for but its a musicians music, not one for the punter after some melodic structure. Whats wrong with a tune that swings?
I'm not with Paul so blah to you Timothy.
oj, are you OJ?
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Post by glean on Nov 27, 2006 17:44:34 GMT 10
And to link Americas greatest contribution to the world with Howard conservatism is really, really lame. americas greatest contribution to the world is the legacy of a vile time in our history when many of our ancestors thought it was fine to kidnap more than 4 million people and force them and their children and their children's children etc. into slavery. 40 acres and a mule hardly made up for it. if it wasn't for conservative capitalists there would be no jazz of course that doesn't justify conservative capitalists conintuing disgusting behaviour but there is a link .........that you gotta admit....ding ding a ding |
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Post by mim on Nov 27, 2006 19:08:03 GMT 10
I agree with Paul. (And I'm fairly certain it is actually Paul.) And I agree with Gideon. Joan, there's nothing wrong with a tune that swings. Nobody said there's anything wrong with that, I dont know where you pulled that from. Well, I have some idea, the same place you pulled this from: When you decide to you can swing like Joe Chindamo! It's just that the stuff with that quartet makes a parody of all the hard work you've obviously done on your craft. This just reeks so much of ignorance and priggish self-righteousness that it almost brought tears to my eyes. I hope you are some clever person out there taking the piss, and if that's the case then I will laugh heartily once all is revealed. I feel bad for all the punters you are claiming to represent, and I hope the more enlightened ones stop by here and defend punters as a people. I would like to give them more credit than you seem to. |
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Post by captain on Nov 27, 2006 20:55:19 GMT 10
Good one Glen, nice link. I wonder if Howard is pro-slavery?
Mim.... cool out... t-r-o-l-l....
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Post by aj on Nov 27, 2006 21:11:02 GMT 10
I wonder if Howard is pro-slavery? No !!! Work Choices is all about making it easier for employers to pay their workers more money.  |
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Post by captain on Nov 27, 2006 22:24:10 GMT 10
Does that mean in 200 years Australians might come up with some era-defining innovative music?
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Post by ironguts on Nov 28, 2006 7:14:26 GMT 10
The era-defining innovative music has already happened and still is.
From Roger Frampton to Mark Simmonds and 100 other Ausy names, original music that doesn't suck the sepo ding ding da ding.
Check out Laurence Pike's solo stuff on myspace, man he's good.
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Post by captain on Nov 28, 2006 21:54:03 GMT 10
Era defining? The last one hundred years of American music has defined cultural movements around the globe. What influence has Mark Simmonds had outside a small circle of Jazz afficianados?
I'm not putting down the level of expression and and importance of Australian improvisers, but its all incomparable to the African diaspora.
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Post by timothystevens on Nov 28, 2006 22:13:19 GMT 10
Please. May I humbly suggest you read a couple of things?
Krin Gabbard, 'Introduction: The jazz canon and its consequences,' in Gabbard, ed., Jazz among the discourses (Durham, Duke U., 1995)
Scott DeVeaux, 'Constructing the jazz tradition: Jazz historiography,' Black American literature forum 25/3 (Autumn, 1991) 525-560. (I think this is also in Robert G. O'Meally, ed., The jazz cadence of American culture.)
Bruce Johnson, 'The jazz diaspora,' in Mervyn Cooke and David Horn, eds., The Cambridge companion to jazz (Cambridge: CUP, 2002)
Just for starters.
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Post by captain on Nov 28, 2006 22:30:20 GMT 10
I'm not talking about Jazz. The general influence of Jazz is negligible on the global stage.
But... without slavery we have no Blues, and no Africans in South America. No blues means no rock and roll. no rock and roll means no Rock, Soul, Funk, Country, Western, Gospel, Jazz, Disco, Hip Hop, Rap, contemporary R and B, no Louis Armstrong, no James Brown no Michael Jackson, no Motown, no Ray Charles, no Benny Goodman no Elvis consequently no Bee Gees no Abba no Beatles no Rolling Stones and from South America no Bossa Nova no Samba no Beuna Vista Social Club no Carmen Miranda no nothing.
Afro American and Afro Caribbean music influenced every part of the western (and large tracts of the east) hemisphere during the 20th century. And then we have Mark Simmonds. I love Australian Jazz. but....
I would like to read those books if you could direct me to them.
Have you read Albert Murrays 'Stompin the Blues'? I'm sure you have but just curious.
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Post by captain on Nov 28, 2006 22:35:23 GMT 10
I'm sorry Tim, I didn't read your post properly. It appears that you are on my side. or maybe not? It's late and I'm confused. Either way you all rock and I have to defer my opinions to old c**nts with more experience.
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